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Offline Jumpin Jack Flash

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Let's get this started!
« on: December 28, 2016, 03:08:07 pm »
Great news!  Vitoc has agreed to allow me access to the GMud dats so we can finally fix some of these long-standing bugs and balance issues.  Take some time to read through other forum posts in this forum, as well as any other forum, and push those conversations that you think are relevant back to the forefront so we can get a broad spectrum of everyone's ideas for fixing the realm. 

Please leave your "this is BS" and "Make Thieves invincible" comments to another forum, because I don't feel like weeding through your tears to get to the valid comments.  Serious comments here only please, or you will be denied access to this forum, and your future comments will not be heard. 

Any opinions you have on balancing issues are valid, let them be heard here and they will be taken into consideration.  This will not be a "majority rules" type of thing, because I'm only going to do this once!  So let's make sure we do it right the first time!!

After all bugs are taken care of and the balancing issues are acceptable, the realm will undergo a reset and we'll start from there.  After the reset, I will begin development on the first GMud content update in a number of years.  The initial content update will include a few new areas, as well as tidying up some existing areas to make them more useable as scripting areas.  Shadowmere is at the top of the list, as EVILS need a place to feel welcome!!

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2016, 03:23:25 pm »
any chance to bring back QnD?

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2016, 03:50:26 pm »
Anything is possible, and I like the idea.

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2016, 04:01:19 pm »
25% less damage spellmod, Q & D back, I personally don`t like auto-regen rooms, makes to easy. 15% hang penalty engadged. weapons more "Elementaly complxed" ie) Sunsword hits ice golems 25% more dmg.) Tracking limited 50% than current. **SUICIDE PASSWORD SET IN PLACE*  Nobody should have to worry about a friend turning on them and getting rolled. A/C structured slightly lower for plates, or better for leather/cloths.    I`m sure this is overboard and will strike

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2016, 04:26:04 pm »
I like all these ideas.  Obviously, there will be some type of collective bargaining on what makes it in and what doesn't.  Sometimes, it will be majority rules, other times it will be done for the better of the realm.  But these are all good discussion points.

I'm going to stop replying to all posts so as not to overwhelm the forum.  But, I will be reading them all, so please keep them coming.
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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2016, 04:41:53 pm »
Smash- Expected Behavior: Hold Person, less AC for a few rounds. 

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2016, 06:11:12 pm »
Can I suggest you create a new Topic or category or whatever its called for this on the forums and a new thread for every idea you like so the idea itself and can be hashed out without it getting confusing over one thread with everything. Make it so you alone can only post new threads and we can only reply to them.

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2016, 06:14:01 pm »
1. The 5th evil mage spell, necromantic bolt, is broken.  It fires in two parts - the first is the cast damage spell component, attack type normal.  The second part or EndCast is meant to be a DrainLife spell.  Unfortunately these two pieces are reversed, so if someone is holding a copper cross or the large silvery cross - something that negates draining, it doesn't prevent the EndCast, it prevents the normal damage spell component.

2. Eliminate lawful dwarven guards completely.  They can protect themselves and others (King Kuldar, Gudruk), but they need to be neutral.

I've heard the horror stories about shitbags who stack the 3rd evil quest teleport room with 50 dwarven guards... you can't even attack them first because you would take too many eps.

http://www.greatermud.com/forums/index.php?topic=4041.msg24409#new

3. Prev stack.  I see someone else talking about reducing plate or increasing leather - that's a bad idea.  Prev, and +prev items, should be worth half of what they are.  Perhaps a stack cap? 

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2016, 06:32:44 pm »
1. The 5th evil mage spell, necromantic bolt, is broken.  It fires in two parts - the first is the cast damage spell component, attack type normal.  The second part or EndCast is meant to be a DrainLife spell.  Unfortunately these two pieces are reversed, so if someone is holding a copper cross or the large silvery cross - something that negates draining, it doesn't prevent the EndCast, it prevents the normal damage spell component.

The crosses specifically negate the spell necromantic bolt. Kind of like the sunstone wristband specifically negates a handful of different confusion spells. Nothing broken here.

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2016, 08:32:58 pm »
First, thanks for taking the time to do this.  I'm excited for any fresh balancing/content, even if it takes a bit to get right.

ideas off the top of my head

Q&D back
remove auto regen rooms (maybe keep caveworm since it is such an icon)
also agree with Fury on making weapons (and spells) more "elementally complexed".    On top of that i think the mobs need to be modified the same way.  I would like to see more monsters have a -element resistance.  negative fire resistance is somewhat represented, but how often do you see negative lightning or stone?

*Set suicide password is a must
*Have evil points been fixed yet? if not, this should be priority.  worse case, max evil should be removed.
*Make more areas "scriptable"
 
I disagree with a spellmod nerf.  I think as it is now is perfect (though i might be bias due to always playing a mage).  Plus bringing back Q&D would already be helping the nonspellcasters.




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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2016, 02:12:31 am »
First, thanks for taking the time to do this.  I'm excited for any fresh balancing/content, even if it takes a bit to get right.

ideas off the top of my head

Q&D back
remove auto regen rooms (maybe keep caveworm since it is such an icon)
also agree with Fury on making weapons (and spells) more "elementally complexed".    On top of that i think the mobs need to be modified the same way.  I would like to see more monsters have a -element resistance.  negative fire resistance is somewhat represented, but how often do you see negative lightning or stone?

*Set suicide password is a must
*Have evil points been fixed yet? if not, this should be priority.  worse case, max evil should be removed.
*Make more areas "scriptable"
 
I disagree with a spellmod nerf.  I think as it is now is perfect (though i might be bias due to always playing a mage).  Plus bringing back Q&D would already be helping the nonspellcasters.

I think these ^^^ are some of the more important points.
-Gmud's regen timers are too fast. It's for this reason we are done with a push in 5 months.
-Evil points are broken totally. I attacked Beaver for 2 days straight and still remained neutral. He was Saint.
-Saint is not attainable in MajorMUD without mudop involvement. It was meant for special cases to "knight" a player if you will.
-If you are Good/Saint and cloud, you go back to Neutral in MajorMUD. This is part of the balance.


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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2016, 05:21:16 am »
My thoughts on the alignment system have always been a bit skewed from everyone else.  I don't think a person should be able to sit in the bank doing absolutely nothing, and slowly tick toward Good/Saint.  Mother Theresa didn't sit her ass at home doing nothing and achieve Saint-hood, she had to work for it!  I think the alignment tick should be a steady tick toward neutrality, and as long as you do nothing, you will become and stay neutral.

Everyone starts the game neutral, so if you do nothing, you stay neutral.  You are not aiding the side of good, nor evil, you are NEUTRAL!  Likewise, if you want to become Evil, you start attacking other neutral characters.  And, if you want to become good, you either attack evils, or offer penance to the Bishop or Annora.  Either way, once you are Good or Evil, you are constantly ticking back toward neutral and must ACT to maintain your current alignment.  The only assured alignment where no action is required...is NEUTRAL!

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2016, 02:46:02 pm »
The crosses specifically negate the spell necromantic bolt. Kind of like the sunstone wristband specifically negates a handful of different confusion spells. Nothing broken here.

I get what it shows in the .dat files.  I also think those weren't thought out properly and they meant to point it to the drain.  The necromantic bolt spell itself has nothing in common with all of the other drain spells that the cross negates.  You really think a lvl 50 spell was written to be negated by a lvl1 item? 

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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2016, 03:37:27 pm »
The crosses were designed to negate the following:

necromantic beam (391): dread planewalker/fallen angel/necromancer/others drainlife 64-139
necromantic beam (955): rotting beholder drainlife 30-100
necromantic bolt (1008): Mage-3 nebo spell

This is an obvious error as the Mage-3 necromantic bolt spell is broken down into two parts, the necro bolt (1008) and the necro drain (1246).  The crosses should be set to negate the 1246 secondary effect, and not the primary 1008 necro bolt attack.  That's kind of weak the way it's set up now and will be at the top of the list to be fixed.

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Re: Let's get this started!
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2016, 10:45:13 am »
 the copper cross is a lvl 1 item and it is intended specifically to negate the necromancers spells.
this is the reasoning.
PHOENIX FEATHER QUEST.

also if someone decides to go evil mage it only makes sense there is an item, that is only usable by good characters BTW, to negate their nastiest spell.
kind of like choosing to be LAWFUL at the beginning and the entire reasoning behind SAINT
the entire PVP thing is kind of supposed to be like GOOD VS EVIL
gnome sayin?